We call on the Home Secretary to act following Musk's vile words and hatred stirring at the 'Unite The Kingdom' rally. Sign our petition now and get Elon Musk banned.
He says things you don't agree with. But it's you that is wanting to ban people. That's literally fascism. A health democracy will consist of people willing to talk about their differences.
But he is not part of our democracy. He has no right to call for regime change in the U.K. Whilst banning him from the U.K. would be unlikely to shut him up unfortunately it might dilute his impact.
And what he advocates is far closer to fascism than keeping him out of the country is.
He isn’t. This can be evidenced by the fact that it is not those who support him who are typically violent, but those who most oppose him who are most typically violent.
Don’t fool yourself. I lived in South Africa for 15 years. This man was born in Pretoria, South Africa and was raised anti British. Many Afrikaans hate the British. It is my belief he has no goodwill towards the British in offering his services or views, and would rather see the country fall and be destroyed than helped and has ulterior motives.
Now you're trolling. People in America have been arrested for criticizing Charlie Kirk, for supporting Palestine, and now Trump wants to jail people for burning a piece of cloth they own.
Trump silences journalists he doesn't agree with, either by banning them from briefings, or threatening the stations they work for.
In American politics, free-speech is bought by the richest donors.
It's no wonder we don't even rank in the top 50 countries in the freedom index.
As for Musk, he's deleted accounts he doesn't agree with, has shadow banned any posts containing "CIS" (ffs).
You have shown your true colors. There's nothing worse than someone who pretends to be impartial but really has an agenda.
What Musk said at the rally seems restrained to me. The British establishment is already bringing violence to the people of Britain by its facilitating the rape & assault & murder of citizens by Muslim migrants. And citizens aren't allowed to fight back, not with words let alone physically. So what Musk said is already Britain's reality for ordinary citizens. His sensible suggestion was for citizens to start fighting back.
Hmmm. I presume you also tell people you aren't racist, Stephen?
Let's explore further. Firstly, please show me how are the establishment facilitating the rape and assault and murder of citizens by Muslim immigrants.
The cases you are presumably referring to were abhorrent. There was also a big monumental cockup in the way the authorities handled them. Still, I'm interested in info about how anyone is getting away with facilitating this.
Incidentally, one or two instances, out of hundreds of others involving white English men. In fact, stats show that the majority of paedophiles and rapists in the UK country are white English men. How do you explain that, when the Uk is supposedly being overrun by foreigners?
The 2010 convictions of a group of white men, and a woman, for abusing 30 children in the Camborne area of Cornwall springs to mind.
Hell, just Google "paedophile UK mugshots" and click "images". Check out the color of those arrested.
Why don't you have the same disdain for these cases? I wonder?
But no, one (admittedly awful) case, and you bang on about it, and it only, and then use it to attack all UK muslims, and all immigrants.
With an ounce of intelligence, you'd realise it's the rich who are screwing my country and yours with dodgy tax deals, contracts for mates, and hiding corporate crimes, but instead of blaming them, they've got you to focus your anger against the weakest in society who are causing you no actual problems at all. It's no wonder that Musk has joined in, and it's sad you don't see it for what it is.
You must be living under a rock, watching British msm & reading The Guardian to be so oblivious of what's being reported in conservative media in Canada, the US, & here in S.E. Asia. It's become common knowledge that teenage girls & young women are reluctant to walk outside in any major city.
1) Reports of assaults & rapes number in the dozens daily in every major city. But the msm routinely barely reports it. When an accusation is made the police are as likely to charge the complainant with hate speech. The rapist is usually not arrested, in the interest of social cohesion. Why are girls not protected in Britain (or in other countries in Europe)?
2) Should a rapist go to trial he’s at worst given a light fine or community service or convicted but with no sentence b/c he’s deemed to be still culturally ‘adjusting.’ But a conservative posting a factual report of such mistreatment receives a hefty fine or even jail time - for posting a meme or comment deemed offensive b/c it states an unwelcome truth. Why has the judicial system become so unreliable? Two. Tier. Justice.
3) A recent report concerned care centers for victimized white female orphans. Migrants were being allowed in to repeat rape girls who are there recovering from prior assault(s). Apparently some white police also go to such care centers. I thought that seemed over the top, can't be true. It was one of the issues Starmer took heat for a couple weeks ago. Why are native-born British girls not believed, while endless excuses are made for the rapists?
4) Migrant boats cross the Channel daily, & none are ever intercepted & turned back. Why not? Does the border mean nothing? The boats make the return trip & come again a few days later.
5) The migrants receive immediate gov’t cash & free hotel accommodation. There must be some perfunctory registration to qualify for monthly bank transfers courtesy of the British taxpayer.
6) Why did 3 million people protest this grotesque situation last weekend? Oh right, they’re all far right thugs, like P.M. Starmer says.
Absolute and utter nonsense. You quite obviously have no knowledge of the UK which is largely populated by decent, reasonable people, many of diverse ethnicity, who all enrich our society. I’m thankful for this. We all get along together just fine most of the time - which is what a mature, evolving society does. Like every country, we have our share of criminals, whose ethnicity reflects the diversity of the population. I don’t know where you’re from, but you clearly seem unable to grasp this. Now & again someone comes along like Farage, Tommy Robinson, Musk or you, who, for their own very nasty purposes, spread stupid ignorant lies and attempt to disturb our peace. I’m sorry you lead such a sad life and seek to emulate these deplorable people, but this demonisation of others and our society will NOT succeed. Go away and think again.
For Shabana Mahmood, it would be political suicide if she even gave a negative opinion of Musk. A muslim cannot respond to comments made at a rally where people marched predominantly to campaign for their rights to freedom of speech and to show their fear of the rise of Islam. You'll notice the voices of Westminster going rather quiet.
Signed
Don't be so ridiculous. This is fascism, banning the people you don't agree with.
It isn’t fascism to protect our country against foreign fascists hell bent on promoting violence and more in our country.
He says things you don't agree with. But it's you that is wanting to ban people. That's literally fascism. A health democracy will consist of people willing to talk about their differences.
Is he banning you?
He's calling on the braindead sheep who hang off his very words to take up violence.
The fact you can't see that says alot about your alt-right views.
But he is not part of our democracy. He has no right to call for regime change in the U.K. Whilst banning him from the U.K. would be unlikely to shut him up unfortunately it might dilute his impact.
And what he advocates is far closer to fascism than keeping him out of the country is.
He is inciting violence. That is where freedom of speech ends.
He wasn't inciting violence. He was telling people to fight for their country. Ricky Jones most certainly was though.
Anyway I unsubscribed to the lead. I want nothing to with it when you are promoting banning people. That to me IS fascism.
You don't understand what free speech is.
Ironically, in your protestations, you are supporting fascism yourself.
What a foolish response. Baning, silencing and killing opponents is peak fascism.
He isn’t. This can be evidenced by the fact that it is not those who support him who are typically violent, but those who most oppose him who are most typically violent.
Don’t fool yourself. I lived in South Africa for 15 years. This man was born in Pretoria, South Africa and was raised anti British. Many Afrikaans hate the British. It is my belief he has no goodwill towards the British in offering his services or views, and would rather see the country fall and be destroyed than helped and has ulterior motives.
I don't care where you lived. I already know of a genocide of some.
He lives in the USA, where free speech is still a thing.He bought a platform based on free speech. It is you that wants to ban people. Not I.
Like I said, it is you advocating fascism and I want nothing to do with that.
Now you're trolling. People in America have been arrested for criticizing Charlie Kirk, for supporting Palestine, and now Trump wants to jail people for burning a piece of cloth they own.
Trump silences journalists he doesn't agree with, either by banning them from briefings, or threatening the stations they work for.
In American politics, free-speech is bought by the richest donors.
It's no wonder we don't even rank in the top 50 countries in the freedom index.
As for Musk, he's deleted accounts he doesn't agree with, has shadow banned any posts containing "CIS" (ffs).
You have shown your true colors. There's nothing worse than someone who pretends to be impartial but really has an agenda.
Who is? I am friends with people in the USA. I have visited the USA multiple of times.
I am so disappointed in The Lead for promoting banning people others don't like or disagree with.
I am done here.
What rubbish. We do not need US rubbish spieling and financing hate in the UK.
What Musk said at the rally seems restrained to me. The British establishment is already bringing violence to the people of Britain by its facilitating the rape & assault & murder of citizens by Muslim migrants. And citizens aren't allowed to fight back, not with words let alone physically. So what Musk said is already Britain's reality for ordinary citizens. His sensible suggestion was for citizens to start fighting back.
Hmmm. I presume you also tell people you aren't racist, Stephen?
Let's explore further. Firstly, please show me how are the establishment facilitating the rape and assault and murder of citizens by Muslim immigrants.
The cases you are presumably referring to were abhorrent. There was also a big monumental cockup in the way the authorities handled them. Still, I'm interested in info about how anyone is getting away with facilitating this.
Incidentally, one or two instances, out of hundreds of others involving white English men. In fact, stats show that the majority of paedophiles and rapists in the UK country are white English men. How do you explain that, when the Uk is supposedly being overrun by foreigners?
The 2010 convictions of a group of white men, and a woman, for abusing 30 children in the Camborne area of Cornwall springs to mind.
Then there was the Manchester case more recently - the biggest EVER child sex abuse ring in the UK. Check out these mugshots of the guilty: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/paedophiles-behind-biggest-ever-child-26640341
Hell, just Google "paedophile UK mugshots" and click "images". Check out the color of those arrested.
Why don't you have the same disdain for these cases? I wonder?
But no, one (admittedly awful) case, and you bang on about it, and it only, and then use it to attack all UK muslims, and all immigrants.
With an ounce of intelligence, you'd realise it's the rich who are screwing my country and yours with dodgy tax deals, contracts for mates, and hiding corporate crimes, but instead of blaming them, they've got you to focus your anger against the weakest in society who are causing you no actual problems at all. It's no wonder that Musk has joined in, and it's sad you don't see it for what it is.
You must be living under a rock, watching British msm & reading The Guardian to be so oblivious of what's being reported in conservative media in Canada, the US, & here in S.E. Asia. It's become common knowledge that teenage girls & young women are reluctant to walk outside in any major city.
1) Reports of assaults & rapes number in the dozens daily in every major city. But the msm routinely barely reports it. When an accusation is made the police are as likely to charge the complainant with hate speech. The rapist is usually not arrested, in the interest of social cohesion. Why are girls not protected in Britain (or in other countries in Europe)?
2) Should a rapist go to trial he’s at worst given a light fine or community service or convicted but with no sentence b/c he’s deemed to be still culturally ‘adjusting.’ But a conservative posting a factual report of such mistreatment receives a hefty fine or even jail time - for posting a meme or comment deemed offensive b/c it states an unwelcome truth. Why has the judicial system become so unreliable? Two. Tier. Justice.
3) A recent report concerned care centers for victimized white female orphans. Migrants were being allowed in to repeat rape girls who are there recovering from prior assault(s). Apparently some white police also go to such care centers. I thought that seemed over the top, can't be true. It was one of the issues Starmer took heat for a couple weeks ago. Why are native-born British girls not believed, while endless excuses are made for the rapists?
4) Migrant boats cross the Channel daily, & none are ever intercepted & turned back. Why not? Does the border mean nothing? The boats make the return trip & come again a few days later.
5) The migrants receive immediate gov’t cash & free hotel accommodation. There must be some perfunctory registration to qualify for monthly bank transfers courtesy of the British taxpayer.
6) Why did 3 million people protest this grotesque situation last weekend? Oh right, they’re all far right thugs, like P.M. Starmer says.
Absolute and utter nonsense. You quite obviously have no knowledge of the UK which is largely populated by decent, reasonable people, many of diverse ethnicity, who all enrich our society. I’m thankful for this. We all get along together just fine most of the time - which is what a mature, evolving society does. Like every country, we have our share of criminals, whose ethnicity reflects the diversity of the population. I don’t know where you’re from, but you clearly seem unable to grasp this. Now & again someone comes along like Farage, Tommy Robinson, Musk or you, who, for their own very nasty purposes, spread stupid ignorant lies and attempt to disturb our peace. I’m sorry you lead such a sad life and seek to emulate these deplorable people, but this demonisation of others and our society will NOT succeed. Go away and think again.
For Shabana Mahmood, it would be political suicide if she even gave a negative opinion of Musk. A muslim cannot respond to comments made at a rally where people marched predominantly to campaign for their rights to freedom of speech and to show their fear of the rise of Islam. You'll notice the voices of Westminster going rather quiet.
It won't let me sign - it keeps coming up with an error message.
Sorry Peter, try this link: https://startafire.co/scramnews/ban-elon-musk/ban-elon-musk-from-the-uk
Thank you, that worked.
I was unable to sign this petition as I was asked to sign in. I do not have a password and there was no option to sign up
Got there.