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Gordon Hamilton's avatar

I have yet to see the stiffening of resolve from Starmer.

It’s almost as if he wants to hedge any response he makes to the latest egregious outburst from Trump, holding onto a shred of ‘the special relationship’ which has been jettisoned by the Trump,administration a while ago.

He needs to move on and prepare the country appropriately for far more turbulent times, and commence rearming us in lock-step with the EU.

Lori Flawn's avatar

History often identifies externalities especially from aggression, as the most potent unifying force. Continuing to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to the mounting threats and stupidity can only "end in tears" as my reasonably wise and always forthright gran used to say!

Peter Harkness's avatar

There is much sense in this piece - the problem is when Zoe proposes a reversal of the Brexit vote as the solution to UK and European defence. NATO, with or without USA, is the only answer. For a start, it already exists. The "European Army" however, is just a wet dream of Eurocrats who can’t even get their accounts audited, let alone agree on the rules and funding of an EU defence force. UK rejoining the EU would make no difference at all to the likelihood of that project ever happening. Do we need greater cooperation on defence within Europe? Yes - of course! Would it require or benefit from the UK rolling its sovereignty into the EU? Not at all. The EU, torn by internal rifts and with its economy faring worse than the UK's, might want to gain more control over the UK but that makes no more sense than Trump's claims he "needs" Greenland. And those who think the EU is more crucial to European security than NATO clearly forget that the latter includes another other major north America player - Canada. No, the alliance which has faced down Russia since the end of WW2 is the only sensible umbrella of protection for Northern European nations, whether they are in the EU or not.

Zoe Grunewald's avatar

Not once do I suggest a reversal of the Brexit vote. I don't think the public have appetite for that right now! This is about defence, intelligence-sharing, and strategic coordination.... areas where NATO is obviously central, but where additional multilateral European collaboration could strengthen collective security.

The point is not to replace NATO, but to consider how the UK can ensure its interests and influence are maximised within Europe, particularly as Trump’s unilateralism and unpredictability make transatlantic coordination more challenging.

Peter Harkness's avatar

No chance of another vote! Our masters and betters had one taste of real democracy and didnt like it! I suspect Brexit will simply be watered down over the years in various stages as UK/EU make various access deals. And most of them will be welcome.